Subytrek,
Welcome!! I'm sure once the announcement is made, it will feel like a weight off your shoulders. Many here have walked similar paths. Feel free to PM me if you ever want to chat.
Hope all goes well with your wife and your fade!
i am new here and this is my first post although i have lurked here for a couple years.
i started having doubts about the org back then and my curiosity overcame my fear of so-called apostate websites so here i am.
i just resigned being an elder 2 weeks ago.
Subytrek,
Welcome!! I'm sure once the announcement is made, it will feel like a weight off your shoulders. Many here have walked similar paths. Feel free to PM me if you ever want to chat.
Hope all goes well with your wife and your fade!
hours after the pope said he was leaving lighting strikes.. see picture on link below.. .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-21427713.
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I think the WT admires the Catholic Church, at least the way they used to be. I mean, wouldn't they have liked the power to make kings, carry on war, kill people who disagree (see the Spanish Inquisition or does that not count) and own an insane amount of real estate??
While there are individuals like Mother Theresa who have done wonderful things, it seems the institution itself leads to corruption.
I guess people will believe that God is using them the same way people believe God is using the WT. Really no difference. I don't see where anyone is promoting hate against individual followers any more than criticism of the WT is promoting hate against individuals, just that neither is better.
january 18, 2013. latest message from anonymous on #opwatchtower by anoninsurrection.. 700mb of files available at par:anoia.main directory of files in zip format.
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I agree. While there may be elements of truth, it sounds like there are some embelishments. If people have actual evidence then put it out there.
am i understanding this correctly?
you can do the 30 hour package either 2 or 3 times per year, depending on when the circuit overseer visits.
here is the way i get the new rules:.
I say it moves to 30 for good Sept 2014
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LOL - AuntConnie you crack me up!
3 long f&(&( days. ugh.
did anyone watch the nbc program "rock center" last night?
it dealt with scientology defectors and the stories, (shunning, tax-exempte etc) sounded very much like the watchtower/jehovah witnesses!.
i sat with my family...and there was dead silence throughout the report.
The silence in my house was deafening as well. It was hard to not say much but I could see the wheels turning. It was especially heart breaking to watch that lady being shunned breakdown in tears about the family and friends she lost. But, good for them to take action and get their daughter out.
OTWO - strength to you as you deal with this situation. I think your doing a great job.
in my case it was my best freind in the cong who decided to encourage me to answer up at the wt by... refusing to talk to me afterwards if i hadn't answered up!
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Gladiator,
That may well be the best story I've heard in a long time. I love how you turned it around on him.
at the last elders school i heard from a few different attendees that the average age was easily 60+.
there will be a lot of elders gone within the next 10yrs.
there is nowhere near enough young brothers to replace these ageing elders.
No, they actually sent 2 elders in the last year to other congos to help them.
But, even though there are a bunch of younger elders, the ratio of MS is still not good. You want more MS than elders figuring that not all would make it to elder.
Also, the congo average in FS is below the circuit average.
Meeting attendence is 90% for the Sunday meeting and about 80% for the midweek meeting per a recent CO visit. That's not very good considering that with kids who are not publishers, you're looking at 150 potential people or so.
So while the elder count and pioneer count look good, once you dig below the surface a little, to me you see a very apathetic group with a group of overperformers.
at the last elders school i heard from a few different attendees that the average age was easily 60+.
there will be a lot of elders gone within the next 10yrs.
there is nowhere near enough young brothers to replace these ageing elders.
jam - I"m in an English congo in the US. These things tend to ebb and flow. At one point, they had 5 elders, 2 ms and 2 pioneers. People move in and move away. One individual had a near death experience in his family that turned him from a not participating, former elder to now a current elder in the space of about 4 years.